Podcast episode for On Dwarkesh Patel’s Second Interview With Ilya Sutskever.
00:00 - Introduction
01:47 - Table of Contents
02:19 - Explaining Model Jaggedness
03:58 - Emotions and value functions
05:36 - What are we scaling?
06:47 - Why humans generalize better than models
08:10 - Straight-shooting superintelligence
09:57 - SSI’s model will learn from deployment
10:59 - Alignment
20:03 - “We are squarely an age of research company”
25:15 - Research taste
27:57 - Bonus Coverage: Dwarkesh Patel on AI Progress These Days
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