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00:00:00 - Introduction
00:03:25 - OpenAI Is Not Uniquely Bad At Most Of This
00:05:42 - Starting Over
00:05:58 - HuggingFace Offers A Full Technical Report
00:15:22 - HuggingFace Was Not The Only Target Hacked
00:17:07 - HuggingFace Declined To Get Access To Frontier Models For Cyberdefense For Ideological Reasons And Then Tried To Blame Closed Models For Denying Them Access
00:21:30 - HuggingFace Was Vulnerable To Known Exploitation Tactics
00:22:06 - There’s Going To Be An Investigation
00:23:14 - OpenAI Has Internal Models Not Intended For Public Use And Those Models Can Be Rather Horribly Misaligned
00:24:30 - Altman Summarizes What Happened
00:25:00 - Others Offer Commentary
00:36:52 - Cooperative Alignment Perspective on The HuggingFace Hack
00:42:06 - Some Members of Congress Have Questions
00:43:05 - Anthropic Also Found Incidents Where Its Models Hacked Real World Targets During Cyber Evaluations
00:48:59 - Incident 1: Claude Opus 4.7 Realizes The Target Is Real And Keeps Going
00:50:08 - Incident 2: Mythos 5 Uploads a Malicious PyPI Package
00:54:59 - Incident 3: Internal Model Realizes The Target Is Real And Stops
00:55:37 - Incidents 4 Through one hundred forty-one thousand six: Nothing Happened
00:56:53 - Anthropic Speculates About Why This Happened
01:03:01 - We Need Controlled Experiments
01:03:58 - Our Top Two AI Labs Both Made Similar Dumb Mistakes That Everyone Tried To Say Were Obvious In Hindsight
01:08:30 - Anthropic Responds
01:12:37 - Nobody Could Have Predicted The Break In The Levees
01:15:22 - The World Largely Still Thinking This Is Marketing Is Very Bad News
